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Locked: Bad feeling..... Monta Ellis to Orlando
4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 10:43AM #1
matt
Posts: 43

I don't know why, but I just have a bad feeling Orlando will make a  trade for Monta Ellis. Golden State is clearly rebuilding now, and Orlando is in the need of a PG. They were able to pull of a trade for Rafer Alston last year, and I can see something happening again this year but for Ellis.

4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:01AM #2
Hermie13
Posts: 728

Orlando does need a PG.....but it'll be a lil tough to work something out.....though doable.


Ellis makes $11M this year......


They aren't trading Dwight, Jameer, Carter, or Lewis obviously.


They can't trade Gortat, Bass, or Barnes for another month since the signed or re-signed them this summer.


They just traded for Anderson this summer, so not sure they can move him again yet (and doubt they'd want to anyways).


They could trade JJ Red****, Mickael Petrius, and Adonal Foyle......but that would leave their bench a little vulnerable.


 


They'd have a great starting 5 once Jameer is back:  Jameer-PG, Ellis-SG, Carter-SF, Lewis-PF, Dwight-C


Bench wouldn't be bad with Gortat, Bass, Barnes, and jason Williams......


They do lose some tough D in Petrius and 3pt shooting in JJ......


Not to mention, while Jameer is out, they'd be extrmely thin at the 2/3 spot since a few of their other players and banged up.  So getting Ellis may not really make them a better overall team while Jameer is out....


 


Would be a bold move for sure.......if they threw in some picks or something, might actually work.....

4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:09AM #3
KuvoBlastee
Posts: 217

in the last 3 days two things have happened...


1.  Monta Ellis has stated that hes not going anywhere


2. The Orlando Magic has stated that they will not look for another point guard...

4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:12AM #4
D-Wreck (The Lost Boys)
Posts: 7,697

Orlando doesn't have any trading pieces unless they want to break up their core

4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:18AM #5
Hermie13
Posts: 728

Nov 19, 2009 -- 11:12AM, D-Wreck (The Lost Boys) wrote:


Orlando doesn't have any trading pieces unless they want to break up their core





Not really true....as I showed.  Unless you count JJ Red and Petrius as 'core guys'....which I don't.  I think they're important, but Dwight, Lewis, Carter, and Jameer are their core guys.

4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:20AM #6
Hermie13
Posts: 728

Nov 19, 2009 -- 11:09AM, KuvoBlastee wrote:


in the last 3 days two things have happened...


1.  Monta Ellis has stated that hes not going anywhere


2. The Orlando Magic has stated that they will not look for another point guard...






Well Stephen Jackson also said that he didn't want to go anywhere after saying he wanted a traded.....then changed his mind again.


Ellis also has been very public about 'not being the guy' for GS.  So even if he wants to stay, the Warriors could decide they are better off moving on and getting a true team player and leader.


 


I know Orlando said that now.....but can Jason Williams really hold up?  If things get ugly, they could get desperate......

4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:26AM #7
D-Wreck (The Lost Boys)
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Nov 19, 2009 -- 11:18AM, Hermie13 wrote:


Nov 19, 2009 -- 11:12AM, D-Wreck (The Lost Boys) wrote:


Orlando doesn't have any trading pieces unless they want to break up their core





Not really true....as I showed.  Unless you count JJ Red and Petrius as 'core guys'....which I don't.  I think they're important, but Dwight, Lewis, Carter, and Jameer are their core guys.




those guys aren't very good trading pieces though,


and those two guys wouldn't even be enough salary

4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:55AM #8
IKnowYouSeeIt (OCB)
Posts: 261

i dont think gs would want petrius back

4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:55AM #9
Ohiowatha
Posts: 1,033

Nelson's only going to be out 6 weeks. Does that really mean they have to reshuffle the roster?

4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 12:03PM #10
Hermie13
Posts: 728

Nov 19, 2009 -- 11:26AM, D-Wreck (The Lost Boys) wrote:


those guys aren't very good trading pieces though,


and those two guys wouldn't even be enough salary





JJ is actually a decent backup 2.  Has size and good shot.  He'd start at the 2 in GS and can run with that offense.  Petrius is a solid defender (looked good against Lebron in the playoffs) and would start at the 3 for GS.  Very underrated player.


Compared to what most have said the Cavs would offer, they are very good trade pieces.  JJ is as good or better than Boobie, and Petrius is as good as anyone on our bench right now.


 


And actually, they are enough salary....if they included another bench guy (I was wrong about Foyle though, he can't be traded either as he signed as a free agent).


Would have to include Johnson or Anderson (who can be traded).


Orlando can get it done.....but again, the trade really doesn't make them better overall.

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