I know the bashing I will probably take for discussing moving Z, but I think this would be good for our team this year and long term.

www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradei...

It is us and the Clippers,

We get Kaman and Deandre Jordan and they get Z and possibly a draft pick.

After this year if Z retires we would have no one over 6'10 in the post unless we resign Shaq. Now I think that Andy does an ok job at center and would be an ok fit with JJ in the future if need be, but I would rather have someone who is a little bigger that can bang down low and maybe block some shots.

 Kaman is no better than Z now and probably won't get any better however he will be almost guaranteed to put up the same numbers as Z, is a more athletic than Z and will be in his prime for at least 3-4 more years.

 Jordan needs to work on his free throw shooting, staying out of foul trouble and his post moves. With that said, he has incredible athleticism for someone his size, can use that to run the break and already is a shotblocking machine who blocked more than a shot a game in only 14 min last year. Can you imagine a frontcourt of Jordan, Hickson/AV, and Lebron running the break!!!

This gives us a rotation next year in the frontcourt of

PF- AV, Hickson, Darnell

C- Kaman, Deandre Jordan

This is without Shaq resigning and with Z retired, however I think this is still a legit rotation. Also this year Kaman would be our backup and he definately is starter quality. I would love this deal and depending on what the clips are looking to do maybe we throw in Darnell or a pick and I think they would at least consider it since they have camby.

For the Future, the trade is good but for this season, I will pass on it. Nice idea though.

Oct 14, 2009 -- 2:06AM, T ByRd 103 wrote:

Oct 14, 2009 -- 1:43AM, C.Boo (Telfair Fan!!!) wrote:

Im not going to bash you but I dont see how any trade with Z in it will help our team unless we get an all star in return. I mean you can replace someones leadership and loyality and even his productivity that he can go off the bench for us. Honestly I think he could win 6th man of the year. And unless its for an all star Z I think shouldnt be traded. I mean I do like Kaman and the future of Jordan but the pros doesnt equal out the cons in my opinion with trading Z

Z is not an all-star, he was an all-star back in the Shawn Kemp days, but no longer, why would anyone give up an all-star for Z??? GYMC(Get Ya Mind Correct) Come back down to reality, Z is ok, but he is not the greatest, I would do this trade in a heartbeat, Kaman would be a good swamp, the Deandre is the future..

You give up an All-Star for Z if you are looking to clear cap space for 2010 beacuse Z is a free agent. Learn the rules of NBA trading!!

Oct 14, 2009 -- 1:49AM, shoshin wrote:

For the Future, the trade is good but for this season, I will pass on it. Nice idea though.

ya let z play his last year as a cav

if he retires

Ahmet, Orlando lost an edge with the Cavs when they lost Turk. Also with the addition of Moon and Parker, Orlando is much more guardable than previously. I'm not saying Orlando isn't tough, but if anything, we're a pretty dead even team now. Vince Carter has never been an issue for the Cavs in general.