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DO U THINK ZACH IS COMIN HERE?
5 months ago  ::  Aug 19, 2008 - 02:02PM #1
Adam
Posts: 60

i been reading reports today about possible trades for zach for delonte or maybe BIG BEN (PLEEEEEASE OH PLEASE DO THAT...LOL)  what do u guys think about this? i think this would surly take alot of the scoring load of of lebron with Z, Zach, Bron, Sasha, Mo as our starting lineup, and with our team defense philosphy i think we dont lose to much on the defensive end!

5 months ago  ::  Aug 19, 2008 - 02:30PM #2
inkling
Posts: 1119

I hope not...


 


It's probably because of my distaste for headcases on my hometeam more than anything. Kid's got talent, his head just isn't in the right place. There's a reason the last two teams he's been on have wanted to dump him regardless of the fact that he puts up some nice numbers.

I thought you'd be there holding daisies; you always wait for me.
5 months ago  ::  Aug 19, 2008 - 06:07PM #3
Younghoush(Birthday saturday,almost legal)(bengals please dont release Housh-Mon)
Posts: 1750

you cant hold big ben's offense against him cause we and he know that hes not a scorer.we didnt bring hm in to be one either.we brought him in for defense,if you think ben is gonna develop offensivly this late in his career your stupid.he does his job which is to play good defense.IMO we should be talkin about people who dont do their jobs that we signed them to do.(AV,Sasha,any SG actually)

Dont disrespect the tuba.
5 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2008 - 01:28PM #4
matt
Posts: 16

I like the idea of getting Zach, I know people say he is a head case, but  when was he in a good system? When he played for Portland they sucked, and when he started off in NY he did buy into the system, then like every other player there he decided to just get his own. In Cleveland on a winning and establish system where we have a clear leader Zach would prosper.  What's really interesting is if you cross reference this rumor with forums from NY fans most of them think a Zach for Ben, or Zach for Wally would be a fair trade for both organizations. One person even brought up this trade idea....


"The most likely scenario is that we want Wally Z for Zach and they want to give us Ben Wallace. I would prefer Wally but I would not be against Ben Wallace. I see us having to give up a pick in a trade for Wally and us getting a pick for Ben Wallace.

Ben Wallace
top 5 protected 2010 pick
for
Zach

or

Wally Z
for
Zach and 2012 pick

The problem is that The Cavs need a SG so aside from his expiring contract the Cavs like Wally as their SG. I propose once more that we just throw Crawford into the mix. That trade again is

Crawford
Zach
for
Wally Z
Eric Snow
Terrence Kinley (needed to make the numbers work)

Knicks
Steph/Duhon
Q/Nate/Roberson
Chandler/Gallanari
Lee/Galanari/Jefferies
Curry/Lee

Cavs
Williams
Crawford
Lebron
Zach
Big Z or Ben

We have a competitive team and The Cavs are serious contenders for the East Title and possibly the NBA Title in two years after they gel"


http://www.knicksonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5215


 If we could get that trade I feel that we would contend for the NBA title. Right now we have a one two pounch with Williams and James, but all great NBA teams have that one, two, three combo. If we can bring in Zach I say let's do it. He's a 17 and 10 guy who shoots around 77% from the foul line. That would give us that combo we need. And if we can get Crawford in this trade that makes us even better. Danny would be a fool not to make this move.

5 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2008 - 05:03PM #5
Adam
Posts: 60


you cant hold big ben's offense against him cause we and he know that hes not a scorer.we didnt bring hm in to be one either.we brought him in for defense,if you think ben is gonna develop offensivly this late in his career your stupid.he does his job which is to play good defense.IMO we should be talkin about people who dont do their jobs that we signed them to do.(AV,Sasha,any SG actually)




actually we didnt get ben cause we wanted him, we got him because thats how much we didnt want larry anymore...lol. he's the only player that could make that numbers work right.


in response to the zach crawford deal......I LOVE THE WAY THAT TEAM LOOKS!!!!!!!!!1 FERRY MAKE IT HAPPEN...LOL

5 months ago  ::  Aug 21, 2008 - 03:50PM #6
Michael
Posts: 23

at first i said no way but then i seen Big Ben in there it's not that i don't like ben when i look at how much we're paying this clown i hate him period! do this immediately I think last  year we could have got Crawford for Hughes straight up that should have been the trade then Gooden for West

5 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2008 - 03:47PM #7
Adam
Posts: 60

man i swear if we just coulda kept drew!...lol hughes crawford woulda been cool, and whoever we sent to the sonics for wally and west was cool, but bringing ben here and sending drew away was a mistake!

5 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2008 - 04:05PM #8
the dawg
Posts: 536

does anybody realize why drew was actually traded?


 


believe it or not, it has nothing to do with the fact that he's softer than a pillow.  believe it or not, it has nothing to do that he has less post moves than mugsy bogues.  believe it or not, it's has nothing to do with the fact that spud webb could post him up.


 


 


A lot of it was the rift in the locker room that the poor teammate caused.  the whole deshawn vs. lebron thing started when Drew Gooden went snitching on teammate lebron to deshawn stevenson.


 


he lost a lot of friends in the locker room with that, and was dealt


 


 

5 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2008 - 01:12AM #9
rob
Posts: 100

does anybody realize why drew was actually traded?


 


believe it or not, it has nothing to do with the fact that he's softer than a pillow.  believe it or not, it has nothing to do that he has less post moves than mugsy bogues.  believe it or not, it's has nothing to do with the fact that spud webb could post him up.


 


 


A lot of it was the rift in the locker room that the poor teammate caused.  the whole deshawn vs. lebron thing started when Drew Gooden went snitching on teammate lebron to deshawn stevenson.


 


he lost a lot of friends in the locker room with that, and was dealt


 


 


Which one of your sources informed you with this?

5 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2008 - 07:09PM #10
No Offense
Posts: 1926


does anybody realize why drew was actually traded?



believe it or not, it has nothing to do with the fact that he's softer than a pillow.  believe it or not, it has nothing to do that he has less post moves than mugsy bogues.  believe it or not, it's has nothing to do with the fact that spud webb could post him up.




A lot of it was the rift in the locker room that the poor teammate caused.  the whole deshawn vs. lebron thing started when Drew Gooden went snitching on teammate lebron to deshawn stevenson.



he lost a lot of friends in the locker room with that, and was dealt






 


That whole "DeShawn Stephenson" thing didn't happen until after the trade.  Perhaps Drew was bitter about being traded?  Who knows.  What I do know is that there were absolutely zero reports of him "snitching" on LeBron while he was with the Cavs.  Literally zero.  So I do not know where this is coming from.


 


He was traded for all the reasons you mentioned before:  He is soft, not a smart player, inconsistent, a liability on defense and doesn't have championship qualities.  If anything, he was a very good locker room presence.

Ever thus to deadbeats, Lebowski.
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