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2 years ago ::
Sep 04, 2008 - 2:20PM
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I, for one, will be very surprised if Pavs is still a Cav after the trading deadline in February. Golfer2
56-15 (65-17) #1 seed in the league Defense wins championships
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2 years ago ::
Sep 04, 2008 - 2:25PM
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dawg u are absolutely right sasha is still very talented and deserves a spot on this team! he can be a consistent 15 points a game with some playing time.. last season he was just rusty from the holdout and the injury he sustained. give him a chance
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2 years ago ::
Sep 04, 2008 - 2:39PM
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I, for one, will be very surprised if Pavs is still a Cav after the trading deadline in February. Golfer2
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2 years ago ::
Sep 04, 2008 - 2:48PM
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☆★ClevelandOG★☆ (Dogball ④ Life)
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As far as money goes, Sasha gets paid this year then has a partial guarantee on next year. Seems like the Cavs front office thinks its his final year to prove himself as well. You cant really run him out of town after being injured last year...so just hang loose and see how he does. Is that too much to ask? The cavs don't think so.
Get excited Cleveland! our Cavs are championship bound!
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2 years ago ::
Sep 04, 2008 - 3:13PM
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why do people keep trying to pass off the stats Sasha put up of an injury plagued year as what's expected for Sasha over his career? I really am done trying to argue with people who don't understand what an injury is and what missing camp can do to a person. if you really think Sasha is as bad as he showed last year, playing on a bad wheel and playing despite missing training camp, I'm going to suggest that you watch more, read more, and post less
Okay, throwing out all of last season... In Pavs' best season (06-07)... He had 1.52 TO in 22.9 minutes with 1.6 assists. That's worse than the stats I posted above. I would also like to point out that in that season, he only averaged 2.4 RPG (CAREER HIGH... AWESOME). That is absolutely TERRIBLE for a guy who is 6-7, 239 lbs and playing at the two guard spot. He is very big for a shooting guard, and he should have dominated whoever he played against at that spot. In fact, Mike Brown even said so this past season when he pulled down eight whole rebounds against Toronto. He wanted him to focus more on his rebounding since he was getting out rebounded by guys who were way smaller than him. Additionally, in his triumphant 06-07 season, Pavs got somewhere around 40% of his shots blocked or stolen within a few feet of the basket. That is ridiculous. I'm sure you're going to ask for a link to this, so here you go: (http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/). It's somewhere in that blog check 2007 somewhere. You can e-mail Windhorst and ask him about it if you don't feel like searching for it. Now, you tell me that I should probably watch more games, which may be true. Maybe I really am a complete idiot because I definitely do not see what any pro-Sasha fans see. Not in an (ah-hem...) "injury riddled season" and not in a totally healthy one. He is sloppy, rarely tries, and looks lost out on the court. Additionally, he is about the slowest human being on earth, apparently. He can use his length to guard anyone who just wants to shoot threes all day, but he couldn't guard a kindergardener driving to the hoop, which causes him to pick up fouls like crazy. But hey, apparently I'm a moron who knows nothing about basketball, so just ignore everything I said. Oh yeah, and I've never, ever, ever, ever played a sport before. And definitely never on a varsity college team, so I would have no idea at all how injuries affect an athletes' performance.
you played a collegiate sport? just because you bowled on a varsity bowling team in some d8 college doesn't mean you know about injuries. and you're bringing in rebounding stats for a 2 guard? the guard position whose generally guarding the wing players, who covers more players outside the arc than any other position? Especially on a defense that has good rebounders from the 3-5 position? You make it seem like Sasha is supposed to go on the floor and outrebound Lebron, Z, Wallace and Varejao. He's a shooting guard, his job isn't to go in and get rebounds. generally he'd be a secondary outlet player but on the Cavs, he isn't even used at that because of the way Lebron plays. When the shot goes up, it's the 2 guards job to get down the floor and set up the fast break or get into the offense. We're one of the best rebounding teams in the NBA and you're complaining Sasha needs to grab more? what are you smoking? And I'd love how you sit there and say Sasha can only guard guys who jack up 3s. Like I said, short term memory anybody? dude gave Caron Butler fits against the Wizards before he handled Vince Carter last year. and you only point out certain stats from pavs 06-07 season? what about the 45% from the field and 40% from the arc? the short term memory of fans is sick and depressing
hey "dawg"....looks like you're still the only one who thinks sasha is any good. you would make the worst talent scout on the planet. if you were running a team, it would be full of d-league bums and would probably be the first team in history to have zero wins in a season...you have a terrible eye for talent and your judgement is way off.
you know whats funny, you say I can't judge talent and if I were the coach, we'd be a D-league team. Well what's funny is, I can think of a finals team that Sasha Pavlovic has actually started for. But yeah, a starter for an NBA finals team, yeah I can't judge talent.....
haha...sasha had nothing to do with us getting to the finals...that would be lebron's doing. remember all those games he carried us? and the detroit game where he basically won the game for us in the last few minutes? i don't think sasha had anything to do with that. any success we've had has been in spite of sasha...not because of him...get a clue.
Devin??????? I thought you signed with the Hornets. What you on here for?
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2 years ago ::
Sep 04, 2008 - 3:30PM
#76
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To Joe, Dawg and everyone else who believes that Sasha is a needed member of this team: For whatever reasons, many people do have short term memories, believe that they know what it takes to be a good player in this league, (even if they have never competed on the professional level), they seem to have little compassion for our players when they get normal, humanly injuries and are not playing in their superhuman form 24/7(no matter how close to or far from they are from being a star caliber player), and then maybe some of them actually do think Sasha is a contributing member to this team, and they are now disappointed because he hasn't been perfect every season. Especially last season, when everyone expected us to win the championship since we were so close the previous season. Maybe they need someone to be upset with, someone to blame, even though I can't understand how Sasha is singled out when so many other things went wrong for us last season. And to everyone who believes that he is worthless or shouldn't be with this team: I am not going to say that any one of you is wrong or clueless, that isn't really necessary, but we really do need to wait until the season starts before we begin deciding that someone is worthless, and even a little while into the season, when some players need a little more time to get into their rhythm, every player just like every human is different. I can't wait to see how hard Sasha, Anderson and Daniel have worked during the offseason, and how well Mo, JJ and Kinsey will adapt to our style of play. Time is moving much too slowly!
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