Nov 23, 2008 -- 2:59PM, *L-Train* wrote:

 

the problem of our big three would be that that are all backcourt players and we do have zero low-post presence and you need a guy who can get you easy baskets in the paint...it would be a lot tougher for teams like boston, detroit... to beat us if we would have a guy who can score with his back to the basket (Z has become a shooter over the last years). it's not good when all your points come from the perimeter

I agree with this... but shouldn't LeBron also develop a great post game regardless of our bigs... like Jordan did? We don't need a dominant center or scoring PF once LeBron fills out his potential all the way.

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Also, hypotheticly speaking let's say McDyess signs back with Pistons and G-Wallace winds up somewhere other than Cavs... AK-47 stays on Jazz... all the other trades that would be ideal personel-wise aren't there, then yes I think VC plus Sean Williams for Wally and Sasha might be alright in my books... but only if those other two options don't play out our way... I still think AK-47 would be ideal... but a VC-Sean Williams still pretty good deal for Wally.

Nov 23, 2008 -- 8:40PM, Cavs mate! wrote:

Yeah the problem right now is New Jersey are actually winning games!!? We need to start rooting for some losses so they go into give up mode, they aren't gonna dump him if they have a chance to make the playoffs. (of course we would hope for losses, with carter still doing his thing)

I agree we can't give up varejao in a deal for carter, its gonna have to be wally, pav, maybe a draft pick.

they won't make the playoffs that's for sure the problem is that they probably want more than just wally for vince and we can't give up andy beside we get a decent big in return and sean willams, josh boone and swift aren't the decent bigs i want to get in return for andy

maan !!! VC is awesome !! he just had a tremendous game against toronto and u can still see he has skill. bring the guy to a championship caliber team like cleveland and the guy would play out his heart every single game, and if he does, there is no more stopping cleveland any where any day !

Putting VC on this team means that we are the favorite in the east.  We are already the only team that really has a chance against Boston, many people on espn and such have said so, and with such a dynamic player playing next to LBJ and mo, we would be unstopable.  I know that most championship teams need a great low-post player to go to when shots aren't falling, but I think with such a great backcourt, mo, Carter and James starting with boobie, west, wally and sasha spelling, james and Z and maybe even JJ in small quantities is enough.  I know that Z is turning into more of a shooter, but as long as he doesn't travel he almost always gets fouled (whether or not it's called) and he makes the shot half the time.  That combined with the instant double-triple team james commands on the block and JJ suprising second units will be enough.   because if west stays +40% and boobie heats up and Wally gets up to 33% or so and Sasha keeps driving and not totally sucking in his trash time, add that to VC getting wide open threes, (which he has been hitting alot of in a siuation in NJ where it's rarely wide open) and getting alley-oops, we won't need low-post bail-outs often.  Imagine Z or mo at the top of the key with lebron at the 4 VC at the three and west at the 2.  West in the corner, and James slashing on one side with Carter on the other, and you will get a very high percentage shot every time.  If they shut that down by doubling the lobber at the top of the key, just go to the open man from there. 

Wallace will not fit well here.  He is good defensively, but his offensive game is totally not cohesive with our starters.  If he is fine with coming off the pine, then I think it's a good trade.  But I think we should all hope for bibby and horford getting hurt on johnson coming over here, now that is ideal.

Not going to waste all 2010 money on a 33-34 year old Vince Carter.